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chuck hagel tried so hard to get the job you could see from the line of questioning that he was subjected to that the congress would never confirm him for the job unless he swore to defend all of washington's as one of the senators put it core foreign policy beliefs and chuck hagel went to great lengths to show that he is in no way going to challenge those core foreign policy beliefs it was quite an exhausting hearing considering the senators were asking almost the same questions and roughly eighty percent of them had to do with chuck hagel previous statements on as well and it won there was so much mentioning of israel that at some point you thought they were confirming him as defense secretary for israel and here is an example of how chuck hagel had to walk back on some of his previous statements at one time he said and this has become a famous quote the political reality is that the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here i've always argued against some of the dumb things they do because i don't think it's in the interest of israel and of quote and here's chuck hagel during th
chuck hagel tried so hard to get the job you could see from the line of questioning that he was subjected to that the congress would never confirm him for the job unless he swore to defend all of washington's as one of the senators put it core foreign policy beliefs and chuck hagel went to great lengths to show that he is in no way going to challenge those core foreign policy beliefs it was quite an exhausting hearing considering the senators were asking almost the same questions and roughly...
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chuck hagel bent backwards to show how mainstream his views are the senators kept accusing him of not being mainstream enough and they kept using the word mainstream over and over again during this hearing chuck hagel has walked back on a number of positions he had taken earlier he kept apologizing again and again and chuck hagel went to great lengths to show that he is in no way going to challenge washington's core foreign policy beliefs as one of the senators put it it was quite an exhausting hearing considering the senators were asking almost the same questions and roughly eighty percent of them had to do with chuck hagel previous statements on israel and iran and there was so much mentioning of israel that at some point they were confirming him as secretary of defense for israel i couldn't count how many times he said all options are on the table with regards to iran again and again saying a strike on iran is an option an option that he had previously called irresponsible by the way here's what chuck hagel test repeating throughout the hearing get the united nations behind you get
chuck hagel bent backwards to show how mainstream his views are the senators kept accusing him of not being mainstream enough and they kept using the word mainstream over and over again during this hearing chuck hagel has walked back on a number of positions he had taken earlier he kept apologizing again and again and chuck hagel went to great lengths to show that he is in no way going to challenge washington's core foreign policy beliefs as one of the senators put it it was quite an exhausting...
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burke and previously chuck hagel voted against sanctions but today's chuck hagel as we found out during this hearing is for sanctions to those who believe mr haye go was in favor of direct negotiations with iran as he had previously claimed he was he offered a correction a very big one he tried to blur his response as much as he could here's what he said i don't have a problem with engaging i think great powers engaging engagement is clearly in our interest that's not negotiation engagement is not appeasement engagement is not sure under so no direct negotiations with iran here's another example of how chuck hagel had to walk back on some of his previous statements at one time he said and this is become a famous quote the political reality is that the jewish lobby intimidates a lot of people up here i've always argued against some of the dumb things they do because i don't think it's in the interest of is world and of quote here's chuck hagel during this confirmation hearing noted that i. that i should have used another term and i'm sorry and i regret i mean do your use of intimidation.
burke and previously chuck hagel voted against sanctions but today's chuck hagel as we found out during this hearing is for sanctions to those who believe mr haye go was in favor of direct negotiations with iran as he had previously claimed he was he offered a correction a very big one he tried to blur his response as much as he could here's what he said i don't have a problem with engaging i think great powers engaging engagement is clearly in our interest that's not negotiation engagement is...
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chuck hagel bent backwards to show how mainstream his views are the senators kept accusing him of not being mainstream enough and they kept using the word mainstream over and over again during this hearing chuck hagel has walked back on a number of positions he had taken earlier he kept apologizing again and again and chuck hagel went to great lengths to show that he is in no way going to challenge washington's core foreign policy beliefs. it was quite an exhausting hearing considering the senators were asking almost the same questions and roughly eighty percent of them had to do with chuck hagel previous statements on israel and iran there was so much mentioning of israel that at some point they were confirming him as secretary of defense for israel i couldn't count how many times he said. the regards to iran again and again saying a strike on iran is an option an option that he had previously called irresponsible by the way here's what chuck hagel kept repeating throughout the hearing get the united nations behind you get the international sanctions behind you keep military options
chuck hagel bent backwards to show how mainstream his views are the senators kept accusing him of not being mainstream enough and they kept using the word mainstream over and over again during this hearing chuck hagel has walked back on a number of positions he had taken earlier he kept apologizing again and again and chuck hagel went to great lengths to show that he is in no way going to challenge washington's core foreign policy beliefs. it was quite an exhausting hearing considering the...
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senator hagel's hearings begin next week. he has been, perhaps, the most controversial. if he had not been nominated and somebody well qualified and less controversial had been put in place, someone like michele flournoy or ash carter, then, of course, we would all be paying attention to mr. brennan who is the nominee to be director of central intelligence and who has himself a history of some controversy on both the heft and the right ironically. so if we could just talk about what the implications of this are, and i'm going to try and put these two questions together, actually, and to digress and explain this question a little better, many of us who work in foreign policy studied history because that's what draws you in. and in the old days polysci and ir were fields that weren't exactly embraced as they are now, and for those of us who did study history, a hot remember that all these inconsequential and rather interesting countries whether it was the czechoslovakias or malis of the time were the precursors to larger battles that could have been dealt with had they bee
senator hagel's hearings begin next week. he has been, perhaps, the most controversial. if he had not been nominated and somebody well qualified and less controversial had been put in place, someone like michele flournoy or ash carter, then, of course, we would all be paying attention to mr. brennan who is the nominee to be director of central intelligence and who has himself a history of some controversy on both the heft and the right ironically. so if we could just talk about what the...
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i'm not an expert on chuck hagel. he did sponsor numerous bills and co-sponsored numerous bills, some of which related to military suicide and veterans' care among other things. i apologize, i'm not fully up to speed on his legislative record. hisso don't know about educational background. host: did you gather anything aside from iran and other topics about specifics especially when it comes to budgetary issues, which is one of the reasons president obama chose him? guest: it was clear from the hearing, some of the challenges he would face if he is to become the secretary. the number one challenge will be the budget. what is not surprising was there were a number of members to yesterday who said as you go through dealing with the budget challenges, don't touch my priority area. toat is just one added factor an incredibly complex and challenging budgetary rubrics cuba and he's going to have to solve should become the secretary. -- budgetary rubics cube. and how he would interact with them through the process. host: wil
i'm not an expert on chuck hagel. he did sponsor numerous bills and co-sponsored numerous bills, some of which related to military suicide and veterans' care among other things. i apologize, i'm not fully up to speed on his legislative record. hisso don't know about educational background. host: did you gather anything aside from iran and other topics about specifics especially when it comes to budgetary issues, which is one of the reasons president obama chose him? guest: it was clear from the...
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will republicans block chuck hagel. senator roy blunt will be one of the senators deciding his fate. we'll talk to him about that next. martha: this terrifying situation gets worse by the moment and there is no end in sight at this point. gut-wrenching situation. a 5-year-old boy being held hostage in an underground bunker. imagine what is going through that little boy's head right now. we're live on the scene and we'll be back with more. >> he needs to be back with his family. if i could go over there and get him i would go get him focu, not their short-term agenda. [ woman ] if you have the nerve to believe that cookie cutters should be for cookies, not your investment strategy. if you believe in the sheer brilliance of a simple explanation. [ male announcer ] join the nearly 7 million investors who think like you do: face time and think time make a difference. join us. [ male announcer ] at edward jones, it's how we make sense of investing. [ male announcer ] at edward jones, we've dided to we're all having such a gr
will republicans block chuck hagel. senator roy blunt will be one of the senators deciding his fate. we'll talk to him about that next. martha: this terrifying situation gets worse by the moment and there is no end in sight at this point. gut-wrenching situation. a 5-year-old boy being held hostage in an underground bunker. imagine what is going through that little boy's head right now. we're live on the scene and we'll be back with more. >> he needs to be back with his family. if i could...
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did senator hagel say it was wrong at the time? and if he said that, why did he not say yes, i said that, i was wrong. you proved me wrong and go on with trying to do whatever he is supposed to do instead of sitting there and beating around the bush instead of saying, yes, i said that and i was wrong. our politicians do not seem to be able to say i was wrong at any time. they always give a big answer for the yes or no. host: that leads to some responses to that -- that the senator dave. it goes like this -- guest: i think that is perhaps a stronger characterization but not a totally unfair one. he did say i stand by those words because i said them, as i recall. it was in response to that question. i apologize. i have not seen the full context of that speech. when he then went on to say, elegantly, was that his characterization related to the war as a whole rather than the surge specifically. i think i personally shared his judgment that whether or not the war as a whole will be perceived as a good or bad choice in the historical re
did senator hagel say it was wrong at the time? and if he said that, why did he not say yes, i said that, i was wrong. you proved me wrong and go on with trying to do whatever he is supposed to do instead of sitting there and beating around the bush instead of saying, yes, i said that and i was wrong. our politicians do not seem to be able to say i was wrong at any time. they always give a big answer for the yes or no. host: that leads to some responses to that -- that the senator dave. it goes...
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here at the atlantic council, and on behalf of the chairman of the atlantic council, senator chuck hagel, president and ceo fred kemp, it's my pleasure to welcome you here this afternoon for this discussion on managing the crisis in mali. before introducing today's topic, permit me to say a word about the council's africa center for the benefit of the add yoans, those who are new to us, or those of us joining us for the first time via television or the internet. the africa center was established in september 2009 with the mission to help transform u.s. and european policy approaches to africa by emphasizing the building of strong geopolitical partnerships with african states and strengthening economic growth and prosperity on the continent. they seek to inform with policymakers and the general public of the strategic importance of africa, both globally and more american and european interests in particular. a subject, which, obviously, a commitment you share with us by joining us today which is of strategic importance. we do this through publications and a robot media presence. throughou
here at the atlantic council, and on behalf of the chairman of the atlantic council, senator chuck hagel, president and ceo fred kemp, it's my pleasure to welcome you here this afternoon for this discussion on managing the crisis in mali. before introducing today's topic, permit me to say a word about the council's africa center for the benefit of the add yoans, those who are new to us, or those of us joining us for the first time via television or the internet. the africa center was...
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why was chuck hagel so unprepared? >> correct or incorrect, yes or no? >> my reference. >> are you going to answer the question. the question is, were you right or wrong? ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. >>. >> alisyn: we want to tell you new developments on the growing crisis with iran and nuclear program. rogue nation announcing plans to ramp up uranium enrichment facilities. they will install advanced centrifuges that could speed up the enrichment process. u.s. calling this, quote a provocative step and comes as the u.s. continues to try to convince iran to end uranium enrichment by diplomatic means. >>> fox news alert. there is new reaction to that deadly terror attack outside our embassy in turkey. spokeswoman talking about some of the casualties from the attack. let's listen. >> shaken up and on the other side of bulletproof vests. we had turkish visitor who is in serious
why was chuck hagel so unprepared? >> correct or incorrect, yes or no? >> my reference. >> are you going to answer the question. the question is, were you right or wrong? ♪ i don't wanna be right [ record scratch ] what?! it's not bad for you. it just tastes that way. [ female announcer ] honey nut cheerios cereal -- heart-healthy, whole grain oats. you can't go wrong loving it. >>. >> alisyn: we want to tell you new developments on the growing crisis with iran...
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i want to say something about the hagel confirmation -- guesthost: which we will talk about at 8:30, just so you know. caller: people have got to understand -- host: if you want to join us at 8:30 to talk about the hagel confirmation, you are more than welcome to do that. "washington post" -- "iran to in which more uranium." "it is believed to be vastly superior to the clunky 1970's- era ir1 machine that iraq releases, giving iran the ability to produce up to four times as much enriched uranium per machine. iran claims the enriched uranium would it be used exclusively for nuclear power plants, but officials suspect that iran is using nuclear energy for weapons programs." this from "the post," the headline is specifically looking at china. "chinese companies invested $6.5 billion in the united states last year. that's a record, and a 17% increase over the prior year. but that's also about the same amount invested in the united states by spain." secretary of state hillary clinton and her performance over the last four years. giving you an opportunity to assess how she did in the positi
i want to say something about the hagel confirmation -- guesthost: which we will talk about at 8:30, just so you know. caller: people have got to understand -- host: if you want to join us at 8:30 to talk about the hagel confirmation, you are more than welcome to do that. "washington post" -- "iran to in which more uranium." "it is believed to be vastly superior to the clunky 1970's- era ir1 machine that iraq releases, giving iran the ability to produce up to four times...
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take and they've become a strategic objective unto themselves we had the hearing yesterday with chuck hagel being considered for secretary of defense and you want to have this cheerleading of the sanctions as if they're sacrosanct as if they're this amazing policy that have done so many good things for us when in reality if you look at the last ten years of. u.s. policy on iran we haven't actually achieved a whole lot we've done a lot of things in terms of we can in iran's economy and sort of ratcheting up the pressure but iran centrifuges are still still spinning we're on the precipice of a war and now with afghanistan we're facing these really tough questions about can we continue to be enemies with iran and not engaging with iran while we're trying to leave afghanistan in some sort of stable fashion well i think the other question that remains to be answered is really what the u.s. envisions for afghanistan and more importantly what afghanistan in vision is for afghanistan in the future meaning that obviously you know afghanistan asserts that it's going to be completely independent of th
take and they've become a strategic objective unto themselves we had the hearing yesterday with chuck hagel being considered for secretary of defense and you want to have this cheerleading of the sanctions as if they're sacrosanct as if they're this amazing policy that have done so many good things for us when in reality if you look at the last ten years of. u.s. policy on iran we haven't actually achieved a whole lot we've done a lot of things in terms of we can in iran's economy and sort of...
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senator hagel has hearings beginning next week and he has perhaps been the most controversial. we would all be paying attention to the nominee to be the director of control and intelligence and who has himself a history of some controversy on both the left and the right. so we could just talk about what the implications of this are and i want to type with these two questions together. many of us who work in foreign policy are drawn in. in the old days, this is not as embraced as it is now. for those of us who didn't study history, a lot of us remember that all of these inconsequential and rather uninteresting country is, whether it was czechoslovakia of the time or the molly of the time, they were the precursors to larger battles that could have been dealt with had they been dealt with early. i wonder thinking through that where we see things going and underscored the throat open and see who grabs at first. >> okay. well, let's just compare senator kerry and senator hagel to senator hillary clinton and bob gates. by that standard, both of the nominees -- they are not independen
senator hagel has hearings beginning next week and he has perhaps been the most controversial. we would all be paying attention to the nominee to be the director of control and intelligence and who has himself a history of some controversy on both the left and the right. so we could just talk about what the implications of this are and i want to type with these two questions together. many of us who work in foreign policy are drawn in. in the old days, this is not as embraced as it is now. for...
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senator hagel, key was had by the executive commission on china, but talk solely about development issues. rule of law and economic growth is fine. but that's not the job he's getting. he said absolutely nothing about the rise of china. he's also said absolutely nothing about he has had the defense department is going to do with the rise of china in an era of budget cuts to the defense department he supports. it's very troubling, fred has a great way of putting this consensus reality that in a sense it doesn't matter. so did not do the job better and you can take that for granted. japan for the first time in a decade has not just her and run defense budget, modestly $1.6 billion increase. it would be nice to see it continue, but everyone watches very carefully to see the leading indicator, which is us and what we're willing to do. taiwan is a country rushing to the exit to make sure nothing comes between it and china and therefore i would argue the same credibility over whether the united states would intervene and i taiwan strait scenario, but we can expect the support and could even see
senator hagel, key was had by the executive commission on china, but talk solely about development issues. rule of law and economic growth is fine. but that's not the job he's getting. he said absolutely nothing about the rise of china. he's also said absolutely nothing about he has had the defense department is going to do with the rise of china in an era of budget cuts to the defense department he supports. it's very troubling, fred has a great way of putting this consensus reality that in a...
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. >> republicans threatened to hold up chuck hagel's nomination this week over benghazi. next week there is more hearings. leon panetta, the outgoing secretary is going to testify there. secretary clinton already testified there. is there anything that can be done at this point by secretary panetta or anybody else to convince republicans that it wasn't a secret ghost ship to turkey or some other conspiracy? is there any way to fact chilly disprove what they want to believe about it? >> this is going to go down as one of the right-wing myths about america that are never going to die there are a certain core that are going to keep banging the drum. at some point perhaps someone will nudge the people who are pursuing this say we actually have real problems in north africa there is an intervention happening in mali. there are substantive issues on the table. stop talking about this. but it is so hermetically sealed in that world. >> yeah. >> that i don't see them getting out of it, other than someone making some sort of crass political judgment that this is no longer bringing
. >> republicans threatened to hold up chuck hagel's nomination this week over benghazi. next week there is more hearings. leon panetta, the outgoing secretary is going to testify there. secretary clinton already testified there. is there anything that can be done at this point by secretary panetta or anybody else to convince republicans that it wasn't a secret ghost ship to turkey or some other conspiracy? is there any way to fact chilly disprove what they want to believe about it?...
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he pressed hagel. take a listen. >> i would like a answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or a no answer on a lot of things. >> then let the record show that you refuse to answer the question, now please go ahead. >> if you would like me to explain why -- >> i actually would like an answer. yes or no? i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir. and you are on the wrong side of it. >> colonel -- >> when hagel said i think i would like to explain, you know mccain does not want him to explain. he wants a yes or no answer. >> why did he shy away from doing that? >> i don't know. bob and i were talking about it before, he knew the questions were coming. he nie who was going to deliver them. he had time to rehearse. >> i think of the right answer two days after the right answer should have been given. history actually does show that the surge worked. that my vote was wrong and your vote was right. but senator mc
he pressed hagel. take a listen. >> i would like a answer whether you are right or wrong and then you are free to elaborate. >> well, i'm not going to give you a yes or a no answer on a lot of things. >> then let the record show that you refuse to answer the question, now please go ahead. >> if you would like me to explain why -- >> i actually would like an answer. yes or no? i think history has already made a judgment about the surge, sir. and you are on the wrong...
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what are hagel's chances of winning confirmation? let's bring in the washington time's columnist charlie hurt. it's the good old boys club in the u.s. senate. he's going to get confirmed, right? >> yeah. i think that that hearing will go down as one of the worst in television history. i mean, he was unprepared. he didn't know what he was talking about. he state wrong policy at times and then when he did assert things he asitterred things that were pretty scary such as talking about how legitimate iran's government is. as you point out, it is a club and chuck hagel was once a member of the club, and as much as -- >> gregg: he wasn't a beloved member. i will say that much. a lot of people didn't like chuck hagel and he reminds a lot of folks of pig pen you know, in the peanuts cartoon, you know with the swirling cloud behind him of dirt and so on and so forth. here is a sound bite. let me play this. >> my policy has always been the same as the president's, one of prevention not of containment. by the way i've just been handed a note th
what are hagel's chances of winning confirmation? let's bring in the washington time's columnist charlie hurt. it's the good old boys club in the u.s. senate. he's going to get confirmed, right? >> yeah. i think that that hearing will go down as one of the worst in television history. i mean, he was unprepared. he didn't know what he was talking about. he state wrong policy at times and then when he did assert things he asitterred things that were pretty scary such as talking about how...
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the senate could work this week on the chuck hagel nomination. the question remains whether or not republicans will block the nomination with a filibuster. the president traveling to push for slacker gun laws. with the nation focusing on the super bowl, we want to turn to washington's role on regulating the nfl. we will use super bowl sunday to talk about government regulations when it comes to the issue of steroids or head injuries. the phone lines are open. let's begin with a look at some of the headlines courtesy of the museum. from "the san francisco chronicle" -- from "the baltimore sun" -- let's turn to the politics and policy behind the nfl. this is a story a few days ago from "the washington post." outlining a plan and a letter to the executive director of the players union. they agreed as part of a 2011 collective bargaining agreement that the players should be tested for hgh, but the two sides of that agreed. two seasons have been played without it. last weekend in new orleans, roger goodell was asked a number of questions including one
the senate could work this week on the chuck hagel nomination. the question remains whether or not republicans will block the nomination with a filibuster. the president traveling to push for slacker gun laws. with the nation focusing on the super bowl, we want to turn to washington's role on regulating the nfl. we will use super bowl sunday to talk about government regulations when it comes to the issue of steroids or head injuries. the phone lines are open. let's begin with a look at some of...
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thank you both very much. >>> if hagel is confirmed, pan, a is a happy short timer. i asked him about a departure date. he indicated he'd be home in california on or before valentine's day. when we return in his first term president obama focused on health care, some thought to the detriment of the economy. is he in danger of making the same mistake twice. >>> later koor, could a piece o equipment from the nfl's past protect players from today. one that's always eluded me. thought i had it in the blizzard of '93. ha! never even came close. sometimes, i actually think it's mocking me. [ engine revs ] what?! quattro!!!!! ♪ officewith an online package new colincluding: domain name,y! website builder with five pages and basic email just $49.99! that's up to 76 percent below online providers and only at officemax stores! [heart beating] [heartbeat continues] [heartbeat, music playing louder] ♪ i'm feeling better since you know me... ♪ announcer: this song was created with heartbeats of children in need. find out how it can help frontline health workers bring hope t
thank you both very much. >>> if hagel is confirmed, pan, a is a happy short timer. i asked him about a departure date. he indicated he'd be home in california on or before valentine's day. when we return in his first term president obama focused on health care, some thought to the detriment of the economy. is he in danger of making the same mistake twice. >>> later koor, could a piece o equipment from the nfl's past protect players from today. one that's always eluded me....
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was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question. none of that is anything that the next secretary of defense is going to deal with. hold on. let's split this into two buckets. there was the totalally out of context questions that won't bear on what the next secretary of defense will do. he seemed unprepared on the questions that quite frankly he knew were coming. >> he had mock hearings. should he go to the president and say, do you still have confidence in me? >> i'm reminded through weeks into his first term of the obama administration. time geithner gives a speech at the treasury department about our banking industry and how to save it. three weeks into the administration. three weeks into his tenure. the market dropped 382 points. two weeks ago, tim geithner walked out of the trea
was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question. none of that is anything that the next secretary of defense is going to deal with. hold on. let's split this into two buckets. there was the totalally out of context questions that won't bear...
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hagel did? >> well, these hearings are tough, especially when everybody is targeting you. i guess i was really disappointed that a lot of that hearing focused on the past as opposed to the challenges that a secretary of defense has to confront. >> you know capitol hill. you got a record. what else do you move on? >> i understand. you also have to talk about what a secretary of defense has to face, a war on afghanistan, we've got sequester problems and budget problems. we've got serious problems in dealing with the challenges in terms of the middle east on cyber. there are a number of areas that simply were not that well covered that deal with what a secretary of defense has to do and that concerned me. >> but nothing concerned -- this man will be your new boss replacing secretary panetta. is there anything in that hearing that concerned you? there are a lot of folks who thought he just doesn't seem prepared? >> no, i had the same reaction secretary panetta had. i was actually more surprised about what wasn't discussed than what was, and in my context with the senator, sena
hagel did? >> well, these hearings are tough, especially when everybody is targeting you. i guess i was really disappointed that a lot of that hearing focused on the past as opposed to the challenges that a secretary of defense has to confront. >> you know capitol hill. you got a record. what else do you move on? >> i understand. you also have to talk about what a secretary of defense has to face, a war on afghanistan, we've got sequester problems and budget problems. we've...
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and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck hagel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this huge fight over this guy who cannot even articulate our policy towards iran? >> robert? >> let's be clear. >> this performance was not good. >> two things. i want to go about something that ana just said. if you turned on cspan and hadn't watched tv in the intervening six years, you would think we had 150,000 troops parked right now in iraq. this next defense secretary is not going to deal with iraq and the surge. this was a vanity thing for john mccain to try to prove to a former friend who disagreed with him that he was right on the surge and that chuck hagel was wrong. >> what should hagel have said? what would you have told him to say? >> i think he said correctly, we're going to let history judge iraq, because frankly chuck hagel could have said, senator mccain, i think i might have been wrong on iraq. were you wrong on iraq? here's the question.
and chuck hagel. and you can not compare the first two to chuck hagel. after i watched the hearing, i remembered the lyrics to a country song. you mean i shaved my legs for this? you mean we're having this huge fight over this guy who cannot even articulate our policy towards iran? >> robert? >> let's be clear. >> this performance was not good. >> two things. i want to go about something that ana just said. if you turned on cspan and hadn't watched tv in the intervening...